In other words, that planetary energy might have to do with dealing with their collective, rather than personal, expression. However, humans are imperfect, and complete faith is hard to keep up all of the time. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. When Pluto is conjunct the North Node, our mistakes can be more dramatic and our adjustments have to be greater. I just met someone who has their moon in 12th house like myself and im wondering if i need to investigate this more closely. She says that she has been uncertain about her attraction to me from the beginning and is just really confused because she does love me. What to make of this? In general, a composite Jupiter in the second house makes a couple value a life lived on the grandest scale possible. My wife and I have composite moon in the 12 house (aquarius). I am very confused in everything in my life just because of him and the energies. Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. And I dont think you can fully understand Pisces without understanding its relation to Jupiter as well as Neptune. Mercury in 12th House. Oh the powers of the 12th house. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! I hope you are well during these strange and powerful times. Mercury in the first is a good aspect to have because of the communication involved and the ability to think clearly regarding the relationship. There is probably some sort of inequality and that can be good for employee/employer or guru/student relationships. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Learning to become unattached to outcome is a Neptunian theme in general. 12th House : A busy 12th house is very difficult in a composite chart, since it's the house of the unconscious feelings and all things hidden, so there will be a lot of miscommunication between the two. hills HOW TO SEE HOW YOU AND YOUR PARTNER WILL END IN He told me he had butterflies I did too.his nn is conjunct my ascendant. The Twelfth House People - Mystic Medusa Astrology But from the first moment I felt and I know he did as well this very big attraction to him. Is it possible that 2 people with so much 12th/water house activity; both within synastry and composite, there is any hope for them to just be normal and happy together without karma or something else getting in the way? If you dont like how someone operates, who cares how connected you are to them? Composite, Davison Chart . . It often indicates couples who seem to have a lot of shared experience and shared historyeven if they are new to one another, it feels old. They recognize one another when they meet. While separated from his girlfriend and in the final stages of breaking it off with her, we had several secret liaisons- more 12th house. In synastry, the house the Moon is in will show the area of life that someone touches another on a deep and personal level. Those with this placement can benefit significantly from learning how to . You have nailed my experience. One, that planets energy can be confused and diffused in their lives, especially when in difficult aspect to other things in the composite. Can you say anything on the north node transiting the twelfth house on a composite? Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. Lilith in the Twelfth House of Astrology (Explained) I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. I cannot think, sleep since i met him. a strong karmic tie is indicated in the 12th house, or in the other water houses 4,8. Lilith in Synastry - Astrology Anonymous My fiance and I have an exact conjunction of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in Taurus with Venus also being the chart ruler and placed in the 1st. At all. I also have two stelliums in the 11th and 12th of my natal chart.a total of 8 planets (6 in Leo). Keteki says: May 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm . A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. 08.05.20. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! We share the same dreams, communicate telepathically, had a fated magnetic meeting; we are truly best friends. Thank you for your answer. Hello, Skye. With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. They think no one cares whether they are present or absent. The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. Hi!! Then we hurt each other. One thing Ive noticed with these people is that other people usually notice their . Nothing in astrology dictates your decisions. Lilith in the 3rd House: Those with Lilith in the 3rd house may have a dark sense of humor, be into alternative or shocking entertainment & literature, while they have the capability of being fantastic liars. These are just a few of the synastry aspects. When transit Mercury is in the composite 12th house, you may refrain from expressing thoughts and opinions with one another until youre alone, just the two of you, and no one else around. His Pluto on your Ascendant is an intense experience, but it sounds as though Neptune is the culprit as far as youre concerned. The twelfth house is associated with hidden emotions, and Lilith's influence adds an extra layer of complexity to this placement. However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. She has great remorse about it and is seeking help to try and put an end to it. sorry Ive made an error : it is not his descendant point, it is his IC point. Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. With the composite 12th house in Aries, it may be difficult at times for you to take initiative together when needed, and instead that kicks in when youre moving together subconsciously. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. In our composite chart, Mars in 12th house Cancer square MC conjunct Mercury(10th) and the Sun, Venus(9th) & Mars square IC conjunct Saturn and Pluto(3rd). Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. So, the composite Venus and Saturn are also in the 12th house. I had a relationship with someone, in our composite chart, we have a stellium in the 12th house Sun, Juno, Venus and Uranus. Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. Im from a country in southamerica. this is honestly so beautiful to read. Past Life Indicators in Synastry and Karmic Relationships - Astrology I will look into it. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). I am at a point where Im in limbo and ready to let go if necessary, but I am paralyzed by the confusion and inability to understand whats at the root of what led us to this point. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. (One expression does not contra-indicate the other.). And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion. so we find the True in each other. Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. We are from different countries and we live bliss for few moments and then a lot of despair and pain separated without any logic A tough road between Heaven and Hell! but thats life afterall! We both feel we have been together over many lifetimes. Talking about Fate! Thank you, Tricia. I can no longer approach love as wholeheartedly again. The romantic synastric analysis is the interaction of houses between two birth charts. I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. In fact, it seems we are even more a part of each others lives than ever. And what does it mean our 12th. Star*Mate Composite Report by Pamela Thompson Having someone else's planets in these houses (especially the 5 th, 7 th, and 8 th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. It doesnt matter. Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa. Thank you. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. *And in Synastry- My Chiron RIsing (asc in Taurus) sits in his 12th house) The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects. Lilith here can even be drawn to cults. He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). Thanks. This is okay, as long as we learn from those mistakes and adjust our steps. Click on "Chart Type" >>. AT ALL. Youre writing is inspired. What is your thought on this. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. !.the telepathy is overwhelming me. I feel that our connection is a long term one over many lifetimes. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Saturn, NN, and Sun exact at 28 degrees, opposite Chiron Rx in Cancer. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) Its the last chance to get it right, and there will be a struggle to use this planets positive expression easily. Your article is amazing! The Composite Sun Through the Houses. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. Please your opinion. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? We communicated telepathically and still do. This position can show one person makes all of the sacrifices and the other person takes everything . thundered my davison chart has our sun, mercury and pluto in the 12. frequently i hear what he says in my head before he says it. Lots of greetings from Serbia. Anything different there? Regine. It was helpful all of your comments about the rest of composite houses and I say Thank you again for this He didnt want to commit/marry. The interesting thing is that we have a very unconventional relationship, mainly as friends and close allies in a spiritual cause (with the mission of saving the world, essentially), but with a new dimension of intense emotional and physical intimacy. Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. I thought I had become delusional, making things up in my head. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. When the transit Sun is in the composite 12th house, you may not give as much attention to the relationship, and instead a light is shone on things that have been hidden to the two of you. All that positive Saturn synastry for durablilty, moon conjunction, and all those personal planet oppositions make us feel like the same person sometimes. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. Hi! the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. Thank you, Dawn. The Composite 12th House in Astrology I didnt see him for a year after we split up and then ran into him last year out of nowhere. This placement suppresses your deep subconscious a lot. We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. Though many of the things you have said have been true, and there are challenges, I know we are committed to knowing each other and spending this precious time together. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. A very painful and challenging connection. Is there nothing better to hope for? The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. What should i do? An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. I have read at least books regarding the 12th house, and its not easy to comprehend the needs of the 12th. Should I pay attention to that or to our individual charts? You could unknowingly absorb all types of pain from the collective unconscious, making it difficult for you to be a member of the world. Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. VENUS IN HOUSE TWELVE Venus in the 12th house cultivates a spiritually profound form of love and a desire to experience love on a higher level. thank you for your insight, thank you !!! For him, its TOO many of his own issues. The person with the most crowded 12th house in history is Ann Margret, a Swedish born actor best known for her iconic Easy Rider bike scene and starring in Viva Los Vegas alongside Elvis Presley. Everything you said is so on point. Is this similar for composite ruler in 12th? Is this why I am feeling this more? Me and my sweet friend have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Cancer in the 12th, trine Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th, sextile Moon in Taurus in the 10th, but square Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd. Thank you very much. My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th. Its weird weird weird . The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. Through counseling she has discovered that her pattern of deception and maintaining an emotional distance from me stems from childhood. Sometimes walking around with him is just like being in a movie, which is funny because we ARE in a movie together- one he is making with his best friend.