In one or two strokes, the bullet is formed ready for dip lubing. Unique was a sooty powder so Ive switched to W231. What are YOU shooting? And for 99% of the actual real world needs of a citizen for self defense it will work just fine. This gun now wears factory synthetic grips which are decent but could use more girth behind the trigger guard. I don't completely understand the physics behind it. SASS# 85224. Current J frame factory grips have similar features and are made of a stiffer compound. Youre describing Remington Multiball ammunition (R357MB)- I used to carry that stuff decades ago. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Bullseye Handgun Powders Smokeless pistol powder Billions of rounds have been loaded with Bullseye since it was introduced in 1913. Interesting. The average street punk today has more firepower than the Russian Army did in WWII and trying to re-load a revolver in a fire fight is the best way to commit suicide that I could ever think of. I could knock out a pretty substantial chunk of my shooting needs with only these three loads. RN, 158 gr. I am aware of the plated bullet limitations on BE accuracy and am more interested in them for their "plinkability". The Internet Pedant Ive loaded some wadcutters to the point of being flush with the case mouth and big lead bullets almost to the front of the cylinder. Two years into my second century a Colt MK IV Series 80 LTWT Commander 45 ACP still delivers the big medicine, but I have become enthralled with a new wheel gun- a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R Magnum. This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I use 158 grain coated RNFP and don't use any of those powders that you list. The design of this modern revolver makes the SW guns seem archaic. I have one that has been loaded about sixty times and it is still in use today. Groups with these loads ranged from 1.25 inches to just under two inches at 25 yards across a handful of pistols. (Patrick Sweeney photo) September 15, 2021 By Michelle Hamilton, Field Editor. Three in particular proved as good as their longstanding reputations would indicate.
Reloading Data .38 Special (Alliant Data) Metallic - Load Data Based on this Id load some at 3.3 and 3.5 and see what you get, but Id never exceed 3.8 ever. Not sure how that translates to Bullseye powder. Just want to state for the record, that with one of the more heavy duty Corbin presses it is possible to easily swage some hard cast bullets. I have loaded wadcutters for plinking , Double end 148 grain,, mixed brass over 2.7 gn WST or Bullseye. I dont miss lubing casescarbide is king! My more serious RN is the 358311 that drops @150 gr. Accurate's No. This. No matter where you look, the first mention in classic loads for the .38 Special is a 148-grain wadcutter over 2.7 grains of Bullseye. head I use 3.2gr. In my time with the cartridge, I have come to appreciate the mid to low end of the power spectrum and thus have made extensive use of Trail Boss powder and bullets such as Hornadys .358 158gr SWC. But one classic target load is not far behind the .38 wadcutter in its own reputation with target shooters: a 200-grain semiwadcutter bottling up 4.6 grains of Bullseye. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. By defensive ammo. http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders-guide/equivalents.asp. They are low because of swaged bullets. Nickle cases look pretty but dont seem to take the number of resizings that plain brass cases do. Speer .38 shot cup, 5 grains of UNIQUE, and (3) #1 Buckshot pellets dates back to the 70s as a Junk Yard Dog load. I almost spit out my drink when I read your comment. rattlesnake of a revolver made me bleed. This too is useful information. ES 56 SD 24 PMC Eldorado Starfire +P 125 gr. 3.7gr WST with Zero 158 SWC did the job for me. Hollow points are not. I used to reload .38s and .357s with 158 grain LSWC bullets over 4.3 and 6.5 grains of Unique. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. Bullseye is primarily associated with .38 and .45after all, it says right on the bottle: Great for .38 Special and .45 Auto target loads. But it is equally at home in high-velocity auto loads. Even better, is get some 38 S&W brass. This 1911 halved its normal so-so accuracy with 200-grain Hornady C/T SWC, shooting this nice two-inch group. Similar to a 9mm 124 gr RN Cast Bullet. .38 Special (Alliant Data) Warning! IMHO .38 special is just fine for self defense, but just not enough to crack engine blocks. I thought the DR program was NRA, not CMP. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. Pasted as rich text. Has anyone loaded 38 special with these compoments? I wanted a good carry gun that was light and reliable, so I decided that the .38 would fit and I just went with it. Great gun with the best factory double action trigger Ive ever shot. Im a big fan of .32 revolvers, I do think they are a superior choice for carrying and shooting than .38 is, but that doesnt mean I think .38 or .357 sucks, I just dont think theyre the best choices for a small frame revolver. As a young man, I came into a couple of cases of hand-me-down factory mid-range wadcutters. Thanks for the excellent article, Josh! Thanks for the guidance and suggestions. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. Haven't tried it in the Colt Officer's Model Match yet. The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. Anyway, you are probably right that the revolver guys trend towards the older end of the spectrum, but I think some of the younger guys are starting to catch on to the magic of wheel guns. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. If you are new to reloading. Also internet references 2009, Copyright. The trigger has smoothed out over time. No sh!t. Discussion: Bullseye is a faster burning powder and some people feel better suited for the .38 special. JHP, 125 gr.
5.0 gr unique with berry's 125gr = .38 Special squibs (solved - AR-15 VV N320, N330 and N340 are products of VihtaVouri Oy Company Shoots well in my K-38, 686, and a friend's K-38 at 50 yards in the Ransom rest. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. ,I looked at Speer data, nothing there. Posted: 4/17/2014 10:53:09 AM EST. You cannot paste images directly. The cold header swages a bullet in one or two strokes.
Working up a 38 Special load - xtreme 125gr + titegroup I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, 2.9 of Clays is soft enough and dead accurate at 50yds. Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), * Blackhorn 209 is a black powder substitute with smokeless like qualities. I dunno. If you're looking for a real light load that's easy to shoot, I'd just use WW's data for the W231 with a 125 gr. Heck, 38s in a J frame arent fun- theres no way a 327 Mag isnt worse. I can not be held responsible for. Enough that the range Officer at my range recognized them because the muzzle blast made a distinctive cat whisker pattern at 8 and 10, and 2 and 4 o clock. Like almost all pistol cartridges called ".38" the .38 Special actually takes .357" diameter bullets. That revolver is aluminum and cannot handle the pressure of 9MM. Last time we took it to the range, I was trying to cycle the old +P ammo to load standard Lehigh ammo, I fired one shot, put the gun down and cursed while shaking my hand. The cowboy loads would be good choices as listed, since these ARE reduced loads for that sport, where usually just hitting a metal plate to make a sound is all that is required of the round. JHP (now discontinued) 5 rounds . Don't know of any bullets like that. I found the plated wadcutters to have NO accuracy. Interestingly, I had pistols that would shoot one well and the other impressively, but have not yet had one pistol do magic with both. I did start out fawning over all of the tactical gear, but once I had that covered my tastes matured I think to love the wood and steel guns. Your link has been automatically embedded. Data will be standard "book" .38 Special data and I'll not attempt to "hotrod" the loads. Good job on you! 01-10-2014, 06:49 PM #4. dverna. 38 special , bullseye, and 125 grain lead rnfp Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting : The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and . You have entered an incorrect email address! At 25 you can get away with a lighter load. This pistol uses the .38 Special with a Remington wadcutter bullet seated flush with the case mouth. WST is a good powder for a very specialized load. I have the shrouded hammer version, the 638, and have been wary of training much with it because of its aluminum frame. The 125 Hornady XTP, a jacketed hollow point bullet that can easily handle 1500 fps velocities. So if you find a "lead" load it is also a plated load. I load these bullets to the edge of the shoulder and use anywhere from 3-4 grains of TB. .38 Special is a lot more comfortable in a service size revolver like my Model 10. The key to those rounds, in spite of their paltry muzzle velocity of something like 825 feet per second out of a snubbie, is their diameter and mass: they will make significant diameter holes and penetrate respectably in attackers. Thx so it seems like for the long line I need to get some sagged bullets.
38 Special Loadings | Ruger Forum Loading 38 special for best accuracy - Revolver Forum - Brian Enos's Between that, some other info on other forums, Winchester's data for a lead flat point, and numbers from loaddata.com, I think I have some to start with. My other son fired one shot and handed it back. Unlike many other guns Ive owned and carried, this little snubby really cant be modified much beyond factory configuration. At belly button range, very nasty load. There is almost no recoil and the student can increase power level when they feel ready using the same gun. Use data for weight. Recoil is mild enough that for many years it was the golden choice for the next introductory step for young or new shooters after rimfire. I have a long way to go before I'm ready to compete, but enjoy plinking and hand loading. Ammunition is available everywhere handguns are legal. Like both the .38 and the .44 spl. This is an easy-shooting load that can cause some power-philes to tusk-tusk and comment. I think you will find since the .38 special is headspaced on the rim your case length is very important to achieve your best accuracy. Case life is excellent, especially for mild loads. These grips seem quite comfortable and afford a pinkie finger rest for improved control albeit with a certain loss of concealability. 125: 125: 130: 135: 140: 140: 146: 148: 158: 158: 158: 170 _____ Quick Links Home Load Data Bullet Points: BE SURE TO CHECK OUT & FOLLOW MY INSTAGRAM FEED CONNECT WITH THE 1895GUNNER.COM COMMUNITY . So I'd think you should find a decent load for short line at about 700 Fps and for the long line at about 800. accuracy. I load it almost exclusively though with either a powder coated or plated 125 grn bullet. Also, too light loads don't allow the bullet to seal the gases causing problems. . That isnt unique to Bullseye, but is certainly more pronounced with the relatively small charges required. I'm asking the above questions because I don't want to run too hot of a load, but wasn't sure if it was ok to drop down below 2.8 as far as 2.5. I have found that some powder coated bullets which are the same weight as lead, feel quite punchy out of the gun.
.38 Special Load Data - PowderThrough.com I was looking through the Lyman 49th edition reloading manual and see the bullets you are talking about. Anyone that uses a J frame S&W should seriously think about swapping grips, and finding which set works for them. Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. I load my own, 130 gr RNFP using Win 231 powder a little over the mid point in the published load data. I shoot almost exclusively cast lead from my handguns. .38 brass isnt as common as 9, .40, or .45 brass at the range, but of all the revolver brass you can find its the most plentiful.
Titegroup and 125gr 38 Special Load Data Any hotter and we get into a recoil issue. BrianEnos.com Dennis, I dont reload and Im only 72, but shooting the .38Spl in my 6 S&W 586 is a sublime experience. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 5.0 gr unique with berry's 125gr = .38 Special squibs (solved ! 25 Auto 32 H&R Magnum 32 Auto 32 S&W Long 357 Magnum 38 Special 38 Special +P 38 Super Auto +P 380 Auto 40 S&W 44 Rem. I have 4 handguns that will shoot .38. They are true classics, and I hope you get as much use out of them! I thought about trying 2.5 gr.
Most starting .357 reloading powder levels will fall in this .38 +P+ type reload, and the powder being used can be selected (faster or slower) based on barrel length. 10. Classic loads are economical. Red Dot work fine for most 38 Special loads. Reloading supplies and load recipes are available everywhere. You are spot on about Trail Boss, that stuff is magical with cast reloads. want me to write up an article about 3d printed .38 special bullets that Ive been working? In several of the guns, the old standby couldnt quite duplicate the level of precision they exhibit with current production wadcutters from Black Hills or Winchester, but in each case, the load shot close to or right on the sights and nearly held the X ring. is a good place to start. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Pick up any current gun magazine and youll be inundated with images of sexy black rifles. If I do carry a revolver its my 642 with a laser grip in my right front pocket or my SW model 69 5 shot 44 mag.
Shot many thousands of my bullseye powder reloads with it. I have tested lots and lots of different bullet and found them all to be great. Most DNR (Do Not Reduce) loads are well over 900-fps. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P.
38 Special 125 gr XTP - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. Replaced w/ Altamont laminated wood, and later w/ open- back Pachmayrs- the less-pronounced finger grooves fit me better. Handload: 158 grain round nose lead /3.8 grains Bullseye MV 775 fps ME 210 ft./lbs. Good point Len. Recoil in that gun is less than most 45 ACP 1911s I have shot, and its still got around 500-600ft lbs of energy which is more than enough for feral hogs around the ranch back home. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges you'd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. These loads are for my wife's revolver. Does anyone have any luck with Jacked Bullets. Good thing I didn't go with the original powder charge I intended to use. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant, Vihtavuori, Winchester, Accurate Your email address will not be published. Enter 38 Special. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. I was just trying to get a general consensus of what other guys were using. Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. And if youre doing that [shooting 158 grain bullets at 1200 fps muzzle velocity] with a snub.let me know I wanna watch you shoot em. Your email address will not be published. When using a 158 gr. You gotta try the S&W M342 Airlight TI.
Berry's bullets and lee chart and 357 load - ArizonaGunOwners.com I like Bullseye in the 38 Special, and it was a consistent performer with the 125 grain bullets. No offense sir but those charges look low for Unique.
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