In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. Discuss. by JerryB Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:00 pm, Post Show Only with Pictures Latest: Arima-bob A moment ago Southern California Fishing Reports B What boat less than 30ft can take a 3' @ 6-7 head sea Latest: Bottom Dragger 1 minute ago Boating Discussion Stripping old rods Latest: nefarious235 2 minutes ago Fishing Rod Building Forum The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. Not all rifles need to be used to kill commies. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. . Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). . .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. IMHO, go custom. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. H110. Less than 100 days away now. It is such a joy to shoot! About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles. I would add Chiappa Alaskan in .357 Magnum to the mix. 38 Special full metal jacket round will hit with the force of 189 pounds of pressure per square foot at a . As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . Its so ugly I love it. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. With nice wood Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post Choose to either optimize the MAGnum chamber or go all the way to the .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend chamber. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. Relevant to what? Remington and Ruger eventually . bullets in barrels around 20. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. Id tend to agree with you. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. I sold my 1980s Marlin 357 in 1996 for 450 to a guy who would not buy a new Marlin with a safety button. Big improvement in smothness. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. All your beautiful $2,000 semi-auto rifles will be illegal, while excellent, used $500 Marlins will disappear from the market. This is a high-class place so act respectable. Gun shows are your salvation. I really want to get one in .357 mag. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. Most 357 mag guns are 16" barrels and some are 20 inch. It is the .357 Remington Maximum. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. I sure like my Marlin 94c..I had my Smith do an action and trigger job on it. For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). Just, reading the article reminded me about it. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. 008-E503829 | MTM. 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I'd hoped the cartridge would be well received by the market, that Marlin would act on chambering their Model 1894 lever action for the .357 Max, but few seemed to appreciate what the cartridge had to offer. Now its the way it should have been from the factory. RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. 1/ picking up brass at this range is not required, only the reloaders typically pick it up. I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. Post This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. The last time I sent a gun off for some work was a chiappa revolver 2 years ago. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. Lil Gun starting at 26 grains and worked up to as much as 30 grains gives top velocities in 24 barrels and good velocities in shorter barrels. Detachable rotary magazine features a unique rotor to separate cartridges and . I have a old JM Marlin lever rifle in .357, Its one of those rifles that has been out there and used before I got it. But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. Have as much ammo on hand as you can afford. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? It was almost daylight and I kept hearing something move around. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. Ive had a similar experience. What I found odd or maybe not is that after all the semi automatic handguns, rifles and pump action shotguns were gone no one was buying lever actions. Made in 1983, serial 600-02396 has a 10.5-inch barrel, blade front sight, adjustable rear sight, transfer bar and wood grips. Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. Also, the flame proved to be hard on the rear end of the barrel, rapidly destroying the smooth taper of the forcing cone.The makers involved cleared their drawing boards and mandated corrections. It was a long-range shooting sport in which the targets were the silhouettes of game animals cut from steel plate and placed in banks of five at 50, 100, 150 and 200 meters. When I lived in the mountains caretaking a state property, soon learned the first day of hunting season would see the deer herd moving onto the property, bedding down behind the residence and the snow plow shed. It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. $2.92. including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). .38-40. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am, Post As most revolver . It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. Not everything has to be tactically sound. Im a wee bit envious. . It was too intense and very finicky. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post I can (for now) legally own an AR, and do. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post Its been gaining more momentum than originally expected. If you don't there are some good old black powder era straight wall cases that you could utilize to make a real deer hunting longer range rifle. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. Last one he had and probably will get for some time. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. ", Go toMatch Grade Machine or call them at 435 628 0071. I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. Mark Penrod is one. The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. The.357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Brand: Winchester Firearms. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:18 pm, Post Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. But they do fit nicely behind a seat. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. Ive shot the .30-30, and its fine, but man, Id love that thing in .357. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. But stoke it up and hear that little dog bark like a big dog! There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Spoken like someone who doesnt live in a 2A benighted state or area. . I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. It shouts very well that way. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 Perfect. But the most painful thing is buying ammo for it. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. 44 Mag is much more forgiving. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. Savage made a small number of their model 24 Over/Under combination rifles with a .357 Rem. The world's most powerful firearm database. Item Number: 534259137. Hornady XTP 158 gr. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. Because the title of the article is Five great not Five cheap.. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. The world's most powerful firearm database. And if you do it right, .38 Special or .357 Mag is an incredibly cheap round to reload, with brass that lasts forever and makes a fine alternative to .22LR when plinking ammo is hard to find. Barrel has only been to the range for load development. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. All Types (1000+) Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. In the meantime, be sure to sign the Recall. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. Winchester Model 1873. Auction (145) You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. Yup. The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. Headquarters for everything .357 Remington Maximum, Superlative accuracy from MGM 1-20 twist rifle barrel shot at 80 yards. If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. That and you cant find 357 magnum ammunition anywhere. Get your barrels customized early for next season! This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. While the cartridge produces around 1200 ft/lbs of energy, which is more than a .44 Magnum, it also has less recoil. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. 38 Special ammo is cheap and easy to reload for plinking and target practice. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. Finding component will likely be tough though. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. The .357 Maximum went away. soft . 008-E503841 | MTM. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Max. Max. At pressures in the 40,000-psi range, they helped avoid primer flowback that can tie up a break-action firearm. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. Since its a range toy for me, its never been a big enough issue for me to bump it to the top of the to-do list. Fully agree with this. That is too bad. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. Location. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. Show Only Guns by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post I really cant eithersure was glad I had 8 30 round mags full of 62 gr 556 as BLM looters were approaching in May. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. Metallic silhouette shooters found it both accurate and very good at taking steel plates off a rail. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. But do you know how to properly use them? The more the merrier. CHECK FOR EXCESS PROTRUSION OF THE CASE FROM THE END OF THE BARREL BEFORE FIRING! Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and. 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. #17. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. The .357 magnum has never been irrelevant since it made its debut 80 + years ago. Thats what makes them lever action great. Free shipping for many products! JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. I like all of them, they all have different personalities. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. Or if you are willing to pay $1500-1,750 you get a Mikoru Japan made Winchester 92 Takedown rifle. Browning created the 1892 to compete with the Marlin 1888, and according to legend, completed the work in two weeks. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. It was an 1895 GBL. Then you wont be caught short. The topstrap cutting kept on but eventually stopped. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! I own lots of guns..I just like a lever rifle best for fun and utility. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings.